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interview. >> what can be done about people like him? the answer is very little. >> the massacre at sandy hook reignited the raging debate over gun control. >> new york city mayor michael bloomberg stepped up the new laws. >> i'm an american what he's your question? ? president obama made a new fiscal cliff offer, tax rates
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will go up on incoming above $400,000. >> the pacific northwest slammed by blinding mountain snow drenching rain and some damaging winds, knocked out power to thousands. kicked around on the ground! that's the way this game should end, that's the way the jets' season should end. ugly and a loss. jim boeheim a winner of 900 basketball games. >> and all that matters. >> we'll all miss him. that's a gross understatement. he's certainly one of the giants of the senate. >> richard engel and his crew are safe after they were kidnapped and held inside syria for five days. >> i hope we can laugh tonight after a horrible weekend. i just want the people in connecticut to know that we do not take what you're going through lightly and we are thinking about you here a lot, all of us.
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welcome to "cbs this "cbs this morning." students are going back to students are g school today in newtown, connecticut, except for the boyse boys and girls of sandy hook elementary.elementary. their new school at a nearby is town is not ready yet. investigators are still . trying to figure out what led to this massacre.acre. jeff gore is inlor is in newtown, connecticut, where two victims were laid to rest monday morning. >> reporter: good morning to you and good morning to your viewers in the west.n connecticu one week this week will be full of funerals and wakes. friday's in connecticut on monday the first two funerals were held for the victims of friday's 6-year-old shooting, 6-year-old noah pozner 6- and 6-year-old jack pinto. the state's and lieutenant ed one of th governor each attended one of you try their services. >> you try to feel their pain but you can't. some you try to find some words that you hope will be adequate
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knowing they'll be inadequate see and you see little coffins and your heart has to ache. >> reporte >> reporter: that heart ache will continue over the coming day days, as more funerals take place and as the holidays oach. approach.iddle in the middle of town here an ev ever growing memorial has become who a site for those who want to pay their respects of >> because i'm a dad of four en four beautiful children, four daug daughters and when i found out, it broke my heart and it's hard to to sleep it's hard to -- i havewhatsoev no emotion whatsoever. i i just i don't know how to how to feel. >> reporter: at schools across cr the united states those feelings of sorrow turned into anxiety, in ridgefield connecticut, 20 miles from newtown a suspicious person seen anxiety. at a train station triggered a ockdown o lockdown of all schools. for some teachers including arlington, chris mcallister in arlington, self-imp texas, the lockdowns were self-imposed. >> that door closes it's locked. i don't have to second guess. i put a piece of paper on my to window normally i keep it to theook
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side. remains >> reporter: sandy hook e r elementary school remains school closed.near crews are renovating an old school nearby. mo it will be ready whenever the ld students are. >> as a mom i could never send my kids back to that school. of >> reporter: julie pokrishak was to watch olivia in a play b saturday instead she'll be >> i'm buried on friday. >> i'm hoping other town also open up their schools and let the kids go there for a little down an while. i would love to see that school burned down and start new. want >> reporter: you never want anyone to set foot there again. >> i don't. >> reporter: several of olivia's >> r classmates also go to st. rose of lima church the church where that play was scheduled to be hurch wher held this weekend. olivia has a 3-year-old brother,brothe her parents have told him that olivia has gone to be with the
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angels.charlie? charlie, norah? >> jeff glor thank you. capitol on capitol hill yesterday sil the house and senate held moments of silence, and the talks is about new gun laws is getting louder with some members saying friday's massacre is changing the debate. nancy cordes is covering that part of the story. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you.t ofte it's not that often on capitol hill we see lawmakers have a complete change of heart on a t major issue but that's exactly what we're seeing with some of the the staunchest pro-gun democratsro-gun say they might now be open to be open changes in the nation's gun laws. >> shame on the nra!emonstrato >> reporter: as demonstrators marched on nra headquarters red in phone calls pour in to congressional offices. >> okay, so you're in support of gun control legislation? >> reporter: kentucky democrat john john yarmuth says most of the calls he's received are in favorre of new gun restrictions. as a democrat from a conservative southern state yarmuth avoided the issue for
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the past six years, but now he te wants to reinstate the ban on >> not assault weapons. >> nothing's going to bring back those 20 children and six very courageous educators, but we cane make sure that's our inspiration, battlecry and i on't be won't be quiet anymore. >> reporter: neither will manch senator know manchin of west virginia. vi like yarmuth he has a record of being pro gun rights. being he even fired on a piece of legislation once in a campaign ad. after friday's shooting manchin he purch says there must be a way to high-c limit the purchase of high bout the capacity magazines. >> this is not about the second . amendment or taking guns way. it's about having an intelligentn recent yea conversation. >> reporter: that conversation has dried up in recent years in ike the face of pressure from powerful groups like the nr national rifle association. the lobbying budget is 66 times
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amount the brady foundation spends to lobby congress.he in the wake of the shooting 57% stricter of americans now back stricter the high gun laws the highest percentagedecade in a deindicate even though 42%laws think new laws would have helped prevent the tragedy. manchin manchin has an "a" rating from the nra, though that could 's come change now that he's come out in favor of some form of gun control. control.hey were they angry?angry? >> not at all.al not at all. and i'm no. and they're families. children, they have children they have ink everyone grandchildren. you think everyone in america is hurting? not hurting, whether you're an or nra member or not, whether you're one of the, working for the nra? these are good people. >> reporter: so far most aying republicans are staying silent he gun is on the gun issue.ched out we reached out to more than two dozen of them they declined ourew interview requests. the the nra has also been silent they have not released a
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statement, norah and charlie, me they took their facebook and twitter pages because of all the you. messages they were receiving. >> with us now chicago mayor ayor rahm emmanuel, president obama's former white house chief of heart, staff. good morning. >> good morning. >> will this lead to meaningful a action, a ban on assault weapons and more? >> >> yes to all of those but to break it down there is no doubt i think right now all of us allll of us are citizens and residents of newtown, connecticut, and so n, that's number one. i think there's a genuine outpouri outpouring in the country for action t action, this type of event, this is the tectonic shift in at futures, that's number one. to have you have to have reauthorization of the assault weapon ban when i worked for president clinton we e fought fought to get passed t passed the house by one vote it was an attempt to pull it out of the and crime bill we got it done it was bipartisan when it passed.. second you have to deal with the
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clips and third, you also have l with to deal with the straw purchases, how guns flood into urban and other areas because urb the brady bill that does deals at stores and regular kind of st merchants almost 40% to 50% of the guns are done but straw purchases. you must deal with where guns seek into society. everything that deals in my view charlie and norah with the where you type of gun and criminal access is where you should go in a legisl sense of legislation, that area.to ask >> i want to ask you what led us to this point. as you pointed out the assault weapons ban expired in 2004. you were president obama's chief of staff and in 2009 according to "kill or capture" the book you were furious with attorney erence general holder who held a press conference in february 2009 saying the obama administration was going to push the assault weapons ban and the chief of staff sent word that holder
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needed to shut up on the guns. >> president obama always stood for getting this done number one. number two i passed the brady bill and assault weapon ban. it is very important we do that. the fact is in 2009 the president and entire government v was very clear as is the ttorney attorney general knows in all getting all the president's n done and legislation done and working work with congress to do that. >> i want to you explain that.t. were you worried about the political backlash of taking on and pushing for the assault weapon ban?didn't oba why didn't obama do that? >> first of all the president's on record is very clear on this it's clear when he was a state senator, clear when he was a u.s. senator, it was clear also as president, and he was dealing kno as you well know with a myriad and he of issues and pushing hard and so making sure also that we had theto do e funding to do everything we d needed to do in the justice department. >> but the brady campaign i mean the first year gave obama campa an "f" and there is a report in the "new york times" on sunday after the aurora shooting that
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the justice department went to the white house, i know you educe weren't there then with ways to expand background checks and to go there was a decision not to go assign that far. not to assign blame but politically how hard is it to take on the in ra. to p >> having passed the brady bill assa and the assault ban, the last rea time we really had gun control it is very hard. that's why what you have to access focus on is criminal access and s the type of guns and make it a law enforcement issue. when i worked for president clinton we had all the police pol chiefs in d.c. and that's why also i think now is the proximity to the vote is is ery, very very, very important and i thinkhink it' it's essential to have a vote of conscience, put it up. people know what happened here number one.er two number two is it has to be aboutpeople - people's, the type of criminal access to the type of gun which showed is why you showed earlier the n because type of gun because i think when people see that it's clear that gun is not for the streets, it's not for sports.eally a it's really a gun of war.erstand w
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>> i don't understand why peoplee who did not have the political will to go forward don't acknowledge it and say i've come around and some have including id not the president. no, the president did not do all he could and you know it and i is suspect he knows it but the nor important thing is it now time to stand up to the nra and to ma say to them as mayor bloomberg has said you are full of we have the courage to take you on now.e to >> first of all -- >> full of myth is what he said.at >> i understand that there is no doubt you have an event that's changed everybody's attitude. you saw that there. >> y >> conservative democrats, too? >> i t >> i think you're going to have a lot of people say okay what ld we should we do because you can't th take an event like this and say the status quo stays in place. that's number one. done? number two is what should be s and t done. focus on criminal access and the type of weapons is where you have the best prospect and public making it a public safety criminal activity. that's where you'll get going to progress. the last time it was passed in
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'93, the brady bill '94 the assault weapons ban, you haven'ton ban. had anything since and the ou closer you stay to that area whic which is the best process ma without making this about law enforcement. >> one is mental health and the climate other is a climate of violence is. and those two things are important in the gun debate.- >> there is no doubt but powerful charles, there are other earl hy emts of societyelements of society weapo where you have to make the typesort and the of weapons and the people with this is access. this is not a coalition that stays wi stays with the persuaded. it has to be built with the ich is unpersuaded which is what you're also also showing on the tv as people start to change their attitude they wil about what they will accept.ight. >> mayor rahm emmanuel good to for b see you. thank you for being here. >> thank you. now we look at the fiscal cliff and there are new signs both sides are closer to a deal ays with 14 days left to the deadline a new cbs news poll
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shows 51% of republican voters s f support higher taxes on families earning more than $250,000 a year, 60% of democratic voters are not ready to go along with cutting g cutting government programs. on monday the obama administration made a counter ffer t offer to republican leaders and major garrett is at the white house and major good morning. >> reporter: good morning. >> we knew the president and the speaker had this hour-long meeting. what came out of it? what cam >> reporter: well many things it? norah.ter: we' let's do this in sequence, talk th about the timing.ld be the this could be the week and therefficials are officials i talked to who would not be surprised if some a deal announcement of a deal could s happen as early as tomorrow. t what are some of the concessions presiden president obama made. he made two big ones. historically he wanted to raise income tax rates on incomes at on inc $250,000 or higher.,000 he's willing to raise that ise threshold to 400,000 and told $4 republicans for the first time he would accept some reduction ction in in annual cost of living benefits for federal benefits among among those, social security. now there are still some difference
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differences. john boehner the house speaker has said no, let's have the tax rates, 39.6% by the way up from 35% on incomes over $1 million gap so there's still a gap there ander w the speaker wants a one-year d increase in the debt ceiling, the president would like two years but the two sides are clos getting closer the talks are very productive and this week could be the week. >> you expect then that now the you republicans will come back and pond or respond or the president will step up and talk about entitlement cuts in addition to coming together on an understanding about how much thee deal will be about the rates? >> those conversations are essentially charlie and norah hour by hour and one thing i t think is important to point out the president is not going to concede a couple things republicans would like him to give up give up. incre he will not increase the eligibility age for medicare and wants republicans to agree e-year another one-year extension in ness jobless benefits and wants more infrastructure spending at least $50 billion next year re in
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maybe more in the out years. republicans haven't agreed to all that so there are still the differences and hard lines the drawin president's drawing but these ons at conversations at the highest ontinue, levels continue and there is ope genuinely hope here at the white house and on capitol hill that this week could be the week to wrap it up. >> major, you think we could have a deal as soon as tomorrow t so that they could vote by saturday. >> reporter: we could have a h deal that's announced in broad parame parameters as early as tomorrow. i'm not predicting that. people the people i've talked to don't rule it out. many things have to come together but the atmosphere, i i will tell you norah and charlie,this. atmosphere of connecticut and the country, the president know a deal and resolution would do the c the country a world of good not just for its fiscal future but for a sense this town can get something good while the rest of the country is grieving. television reporter richard engel is free after five days of
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captivity in syria. he and members of his crew were seized at the syria/turkey border by a syrian group loyal to the government. they were freed unharmed. and one of his colleagues says hawaii senator daniel america inouye has been someone he's been always grateful for. he was the first japanese-american to be elected to congress and served in the senate for 50 years.erved he was a world war ii hero who lost his right arm fighting the german germans. 55 yea 55 years later he was awarded the meda the medal of honor and became well-known for investigating the water gate and iran-contra scandal, daniel inouye a great man, 88 years old. time to show you headlines headlin from around the world, charleston south carolina post says tim scott has been scott appointed to take the senate nted
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seat to replace jim demint. he will face an election in 2014. nasa deliberately crashed two space probes into the moon. the programs called ebb and flow were designed to wrap the discovere gravitational field. than the moon's crust is much thinner the than thought.s" says >> the "l.a. times" says traffic more deaths across the country are down except in california.umber that is the lowest number in ars. more than 60 years but traffic eased mo deaths in california increased 2.5%. more than 2.5%. nielsen and twitter are o teaming up to provide social tv ext fa ratings starting next fall. >> and the wall street surgeon eads looks at why too little sleep weight g leads to overeating and weight hat lac gain. lack of sleep affects different hormones in men and women. men men on short sleep felt more fel hungry but women felt less full.
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>> we don't know anything about good morning. we're off to a very clear cool start bundle up. it is cold outside. temperatures are actually pretty close to freezing in some spots. look at napa, 34 degrees. 34 as well in fairfield, concord and about 45 degrees right now in san francisco. by this afternoon, we are going to see some areas of sunshine, and temperatures mainly in the mid- to low-50s. it looks like cool start again tomorrow and then thursday, a chance of rain.
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day after day in newtown the clergy and women are there helping the survivors and giving families a chance to grieve. this morning we'll ask a minister what they're telling him about the tragedy and how he deals with his own grief. and more than 3 million americans own the same ar-15 rifle that adam lanza used on friday. >> so this is sprinkle i named her sprinkle because she loved sprinkling casings all over the ground. >> we'll ask john miller why so many gun owners are passionate about this military style weapon on "cbs this morning."
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hackney. the headlines at 7:26... concord police are looking for a live from the cbs studios in san francisco, i'm brian hackney. the headlines at 7:26. concord police this morning are looking for a thief who rammed a car into a videogame store and stole thousands of dollars worth of electronics. alarms went off at about 4 in the morning. employees who found the car say that some ipods and ipads are missing. san jose state university named ron caragher as the new head football coach. the morgan hill native coached the last seasons down in san
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diego. he takes over for mike macintyre, who left san jose for a huge paycheck in colorado. interim coach kent bear will lead the spartans in next week's military bowl. big chill and more rain on the way for the bay area. weather and traffic in a minute. minute.
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good morning. let's head straight to san jose and see if we can get you updated on this accident. this is oakland road right at wayne avenue at the intersection, there was an accident with two vehicles involved. pretty serious injuries. as a result, the vta bus 6 6 is rerouted through the area. south 680 at alum rock accident blocking lanes, 101 slow anyway through the south bay. elizabeth is this. >> gianna, it is cooler this morning than yesterday anywhere from 10 to 20 degrees. look at our temperature degree readings, especially in the
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north bay, 34 right now in napa. 33 in santa rosa. mid-40s in oakland. by this afternoon, going to be breezy and temperatures will warm up to the mid- to lower- 50s in some parts of the bay area. and then it looks like even cooler still for tomorrow. the rain returns thursday into the weekend. well, well well. growing up, we didn't have u-verse. we couldn't record four shows at the same time. in my day, you were lucky if you could record two shows. and if mom was recording her dumb show and dad was recording his dumb show then, by george, that's all we watched. and we liked it! today's
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school is a good place where my son will be free of the idiot decisions made by his father. [ laughter ] >> welcome back to "cbs this morning." we reported earlier how the newtown massacre might inspire congress to take on tougher gun laws. >> much of the new debate focuses on the rifle that adam lanza used on friday the ar-15. chip reid is in washington. good morning. >> reporter: well, good morning, nora and charlie. gun control advocates can't imagine why any law-abiding citizen would want or need a powerful military-style gun like the ar-15. among gun enthusiasts the followers number in the millions. more than three million americans own an ar-15, the most popular rifle in america. >> it's -- a fun gun to shoot. >> reporter: gun store owners say buyers also like it because it's the civilian version of the fearsome m-16 used in the
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military. its futuristic appearance has it playing a starring role in american pop culture. >> you tell me right now -- >> reporter: the gun of choice in movies and video games. >> you just see it and you want it. it's just the same reason why somebody stands on line for 25 hours to buy an apple iphone. >> reporter: it's a weapon that's been used in some of the worst mass shootings in recent history. it was an ar-15 that was used last friday that killed 26 people at sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. last week, a man used one to kill two people at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. and in july, an ar-15 was used in the movie theater massacre in aurora colorado, in which 12 people were killed and 58 injured. through it all the gun's popularity has continued to soar. in fact, gun storeowner rick freedman says since friday's shooting, ar-15s have been all but flying off the shelf. >> i normally sell about 15 or 20 a month. i sold about 30 in the last
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three days. people want to make sure they can own them legally before they have that right taken away. >> reporter: and it's not just men. many women like the ar-15, too, including former republican presidential candidate michele bachmann who uses hers for hunting and target practice. >> my favorite is an ar-15 -- >> reporter: the ar-15 also has an enthusiastic following on youtube. >> so this is sprinkles. i named her sprinkles because she loves sprinkling casings all over the ground. >> reporter: for years, gun-control advocates have argued that the ar-15 and other military-style rifles should be banned. president obama, who had been largely silent on the topic of gun control, briefly made his views known during one of this year's presidential debates. >> share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters -- >> reporter: many democrats in congress are planning an effort to try to ban military-style
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rifles. but gun store owners tell us no one should underestimate the passionate feelings of gun oernls it owners about the ar-15. they say next week there will be thousands upon thousands under the christmas tree. >> thank you john miller former deputy director, joins us this morning. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> what is it that makes the ar-15 so attractive to gun users? >> it's a very practical, well-made weapon. there's a reason that the u.s. military selected it. when i was in the lapd, i had sis, the special investigation section. they went after the bank robbers, heavily armed serial robber groups and when they came out of their cars against a heavily armed band of stick-up men, we used the ar-15, the cut-down model, m-4. when i went on training missions with them and fired that weapon it was -- about five pounds it has a great sighting system, you can improve on that with optics
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and lasers. but even without any of the fancy stuff down range from a target pretty far away something you'd have trouble hitting accurately with a handgun, you can put the round right there. it's an easy gun to shoot. there's one other element which is a lot of these mass shooters are involved in a fantasy and you know they dress up in the tactical gear, and they have the black outfits and all that stuff. this gun fits in with the fantasy. in all their video games and all their movies, this is what the hero is using. >> part of the reason we asked chip reid to do this piece and talk about this is the ar-15 was used at sandy hook, newtown, it was used in aurora it was used in clackamas. and this type of gun was restricted under the assault weapons ban in 2004. so is there a discussion now about whether there should be more restrictions on this gun, or can i go now and buy one of these myself without much of a check and pick one up? >> sure, you can. it's considered a rifle.
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so i mean you don't really need much to buy a rifle. you go through a quick background check. there's a backlash, though. dick's sporting goods the outfit that's closest to newtown, they've just -- and they're a very big gun dealer. they've just said that they're taking all the guns out of the stores. and when you go to their web sites -- >> their store near newtown, the web store, they're taking off, yeah. >> i'm just doing the web search now. when you go to the page where the assault weapons should be it's now blank. so we're seeing this backlash unfold here. and it's interesting. one quick update. on the computer hard drives you know, he smashed the computers, took out the hard drives, smashed them. that went from the state police to the fbi. i spoke to people working around that yesterday and they said they are so badly damaged. they're going to have a real challenge getting any data off that from the suspect. >> interesting. john miller, thank you. and when their school was invaded on friday the teachers protected their students. and the students helped each
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can be so devastated by this kind of thing. >> right. exactly. uh-huh. and we should say that you never know who will step up and be a leader in a tough spot. in the middle of all the fear and chaos on friday one 8-year-old boy offered words of comfort to his classmates. and jim axelrod talked to him and his family. >> reporter: last friday began as a normal day for luke san tana and his third grade classmates at sandy hook elementary. [ sirens ] >> reporter: but things got scary pretty quickly. >> they were about to announce something on the speaker. we heard gunshots. >> reporter: on the other side of the building the shooter was beginning his rampage. luke's teacher tried to protect her kids. so you're in the classroom, and mrs. mckenzie is -- is she calm is she excited? how was she? >> she was crying. >> reporter: mrs. mckenzie was crying? >> yeah. >> reporter: because it must have pretty scary. >> yeah.
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but then like our next door teacher said to come to her classroom. >> reporter: so you all went in there? >> yeah because probably the gunman was going to come in our classroom. >> reporter: fortunately for luke and his classmates the gunman never made it to their classroom. but even as they were ushered to safety at a nearby fire house, the kids were very scared. and luke bravely wanted to help calm them. >> they were crying. i was like, it's okay. my dad is a cop and he'll like help us. >> reporter: his dad, luke ramirez, is a police officer in the neighboring town of oxford. and he did come. he was one of the first responders on the scene. >> i saw my husband was calling. i picked up the phone right away. and i hear the terror in his voice telling me something terrible happened. you have to get here to the school. >> reporter: luke's mom, lessandra santana, said she prayed all the way it school.
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when she got through the mayhem at the fire house, she finally saw the most welcome sight imaginable. >> he was with my husband. >> he grabbed me actually and i said oh -- i said oh, you're finally here. what took you so long? >> reporter: it was the happy ending for the santana family. but for luke it's still sinking in. >> i'm glad i wasn't on the other side because then i probably wouldn't make it. >> reporter: no thought any 8-year-old should ever have to carry. for cbs this morning, i'm jim axelrod in newtown, connecticut. >> remarkable kid, huh? >> luke trying to comfort the other students. there will be funerals today for two more victims james mattioli and jessica rekos. with us is senior minister of newtown congressional church. he was in the room on friday as parents were told that their children had not survived. welcome. >> thank you charlie.
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>> can you characterize today -- i mean as these young coffins are put in the ground where newtown is and the people who are trying to deal with such a tragedy? >> well, i think we're in the midst of tremendous grief. you know i think we're in those really dark dark days of loss at the very early stages where all those feelings are so raw and emotion is just you know everywhere. and yet there's such a feeling, i think, amongst the community here of care and support and people reaching out and feeling the care of those beyond newtown who have extended just thoughts and prayers and all kinds of support up to us. so even in this very raw time, it's also a time i think of tremendous grace and care. >> reverend i know you have
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been counseling not just adults but also children. what do you say to them? >> well part of what you say to them is first you listen to them. and you just are with them. and try to see what it is that they are dealing with and what their questions are, what their concerns are. sometimes as adults with children we want to -- to givee them everything we think we would want to hear or talk to them in a way that we think with things that they need to know. and sometimes you just need to think about and -- and respond to the child the age of the child and what's appropriate for the child. and also what their actual needs and questions are. every child that i've encountered, even every adult is unique. so you want to be with them and present to them as an individual person in their own personal grief.
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>> the it is going to feel quite a bit cooler, clear start, no clouds, sun coming up this morning. we are seeing some temperature degree readings close to freezing. 34 right now in fairfield. 34 in napa and only 33 degrees in santa rosa. mid-40s if you are in oakland. by this afternoon, we are going to barely get out of the mid- to low-50s. and then, we got a good chance of rain thursday through the weekend. this is a tense time for teachers and students around the country. we'll take a look at america's first day of school after the shootings in newtown. you're watching "cbs this morning."
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>> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald live from the cbs studio in san francisco, i'm brian hackney. it's 4 minutes now before 8:00. a bay area teen is under arrest after he posted plans to copy the connecticut school massacre. 18-year-old sergio can mad da of suisun city faces felony charges of making criminal threats. he allegedly posted comments online in support of the connecticut gunman.
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>> a student was killed in san francisco's bayview district. 17-year-old montreal blakely was shot saturday night. he was a student at concord high school. >> beautiful start to tuesday morning, not so attractive in traffic. we'll have details after a break.
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good morning. to the eastshore freeway we go, we have an accident westbound 80 at ashby blocking the right lane. slow from richmond towards the bay bridge. metering lights are on, backed up there. north 880, 27 minutes between 238 and the maze. and westbound 237 slow-and-go between 880 and 101. here's elizabeth. >> thank you, gianna. it's a beautiful clear start all across the bay area. here's a live look at san francisco's ocean beach. temperatures, baby, it's cold outside! look at these. 34 in napa and fairfield. mid-40s in oakland. 42 in fremont and san jose. by this afternoon, we're warming things up to only the
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low to mid-50s, below average for this time of year. even colder still by tomorrow morning. we have some freeze warnings in effect for the north bay and then thursday through the weekend, rain. =dj
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good morning to you. it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." there will be more funerals today in newtown, connecticut, as the governor responds to the families who were offended with the way they were told the way their children died. the president makes a new offer to avoid the fiscal cliff.
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devastated. >> right. exactly. captioning funded by cbs eye charmyy -- i'm charlie rose with gale king and nora o'donnell. the sandy hook elementary school remains a crime scene. investigators have lots of evidence but no motive. more funerals are planned for today. connecticut's governor is talking about the heart wrenching task of telling parents they'd never see their children again. jeff glor is in newtown with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning.
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as the funerals and wakes continue here today, one of the families that lost a loved one in friday's shooting is criticizing the governor for the way he informed families that so many people died. they say he was cold and callusous callous. that according to one of the families. >> of it a cold way we were told. >> what do you mean? >> we waited for hours. hours and hours we were there. the exact words that the governor used were "two children were brought to danbury hospital and expired." then another parent said "well, where did the other people go?" "where did everybody else go? the children go? we want to be there. we want to be with our kids." he said "nobody else was taken to a hospital." and then we said somebody -- you know, a very angry parent said, "so what are you telling us, they're all dead?" and he said "yes." >> reporter: yesterday connecticut governor dan malloy
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defended himself. >> there was a reluctance to tell parents and loved ones that the person that they were waiting for was not going to return. and that had gone on for a period of time well after there was any expectancy that families would be reunited. so i made a decision that -- to have that go on any long erer -- was wrong. >> reporter: there are two funerals and three wakes scheduled for today. now one week away from christmas. >> jeff glor, thank you. you know, i heard from another family, too, who was upset with the way the governor delivered the news. they took great exception, you guys, it the governor using the term "expired." they said that's what you say
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about milk that's what you say about food. and my response to them was, maybe the governor was in shock, too. you know, it's very difficult news to deliver. nobody knows the proper way to say it. but they felt that there should have been a better choice of words, and maybe better -- a better way to comfort them they felt, that they did not get that. >> yeah. i suspect the governor saying he'd do the same now. >> the poor families waiting for any word and the governor choked up trying to explain, he felt like finally he had to say something. clearly perhaps the words he chose were not the right words. but obviously it -- a terrible situation. >> impossible situation. >> yeah. >> yes. yes. you know they had great words of praise for connecticut state troopers. every family has been assigned a trooper, every family's been assigned a trooper that sort of gets them through. they said it makes them feel protected and loved. that's a very good thing. >> very good thing. a team of golden retrievers from chicago made a trip to newtown to comfort those affected by the school massacre. their first stop was a church where funerals will be held this week for some of the victims.
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residents can pet the dogs while they talk or they pray. their handlers say the dogs have a very calming influence. each dog carries a business card with its name, a facebook page and an e-mail so people can stay in touch. >> that's very nice. >> yes. president obama and house speaker john boehner are still in touch about the fiscal cliff. and there's new progress to report this morning from those negotiations. boehner is discussing the latest white house proposal with fellow republicans today. major garrett is at the white house. major, are we finally close to a deal? >> reporter: it looks that way and it feels that way nora, charlie, and gale. there is no timetable for announcing it, but there are people who would not be surprised that there was an announcement possibly as early as tomorrow and maybe voting this week on the final compromise to avert the fiscal cliff. now if you want all the underlying, really nerdy details, go to cbsnews.com. i have a piece that has them
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there. let's go over broad outlines. the president yesterday made two significant concessions. one, he had previously said he wanted income taxes raised for everyone making more than $250,000. he raised the threshold yesterday to house and senate republicans to $400,000. and for the first time the president said he would be willing to accept some reduction in future cost of living benefit increases for those who received federal benefits including social security recipients. republicans haven't brought on -- haven't embraced all this deal. there are still some divisions. republicans would like, for example, the president to said an increase in the eligibility age for medicare. the president won't do that. there's some more spending the president wants that republicans haven't signed off on yet. there isn't a full deal on the tax rates or income thresholds, but all of these differences hour by hour are narrowing. and the talks continue. and we could have a breakthrough this week. >> thank you. a man who lived in the white house for two terms is ready to star in his own documentary. former president bill clinton will be the subject of an
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authorized hbo documentary directed by martin scorsese. he social security mr. clinton remains a major voice in world issues. executives will not say if the film will include inside details of the monica lewinsky scandal. and queen elizabeth observed a weekly cabinet meeting. the first time a monarch has attended in at least 100 years. the queen took a seat next to prime minister cameron who presented her with a gift to celebrate her diamond jubilee. the woman blamed for botching the restoration of a painting in a church has reason to celebrate. you may remember celia jimenez created a sensation when she painted the picture of christ that looked more like a monkey. it went for more than $1,800 on ebay. the proceeds go to a catholic charity. >> worked out for her after all. and soon you'll be able to buy an easy bake oven that isn't
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pink. hasbro's offering new gender-neutral colors. a few weeks ago a 13-year-old, mckenna pope -- go, mckenna -- of new jersey, started a campaign because she wanted to buy one for her brother but it only came in pink and purple for girls. mckenna met with hasbro on monday. they showed her the prototypes. it will soon come in black, silver, and blue. the new colors will hit shelves next summer. and now we know what to get for charlie next christmas. we can pitch in. you have a favorite color, dear? black, silver blue what's your choice? >> black.
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whenever a community like newtown, connecticut, is hit by tragedy, american immediately pitch in to try and help. the first visible example of that in newtown was a flood of stuffed animals and christmas trees. >> other contributions are paying for funerals or helping with counseling and creating scholarships in the victims' memory. rebecca jarvis is here with ideas on how you, too can help. rebecca, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> i know that the local businesses in newtown -- i used to live in newington -- in newtown, also stepping up to the plate and trying to make it easy
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for people to contribute no matter where you live. what are they doing? >> they are coming out in full force here and it's a beautiful thing to see that the people of newtown really want to rebuild their community. for example, the families of the sandy hook elementary school who have children in the school who did not pass. they've set up the my sandy hook family fund. the families of the survivors in the community. this is a fund that will go toward paying for funerals, for living expenses for the families who have lost loved ones mortgages, bills in the future. the newtown memorial fund another fund set up by the community, by brian moriello, who says he wants it to be a foundation, something for the community to think about for its long-term future as well as the near-term issues that they face. the rotary has come out and set up a fund the united way has partnered with a local bank to set up a fund. they raised over a million dollars in just a matter of a couple of days to help these families. >> money is one way to send your support, but there are other
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ways. and i love that the teachers have set up this helping hand project. explain. >> it's incredible. so the teachers of newtown have come together and set up the my helping hands project. what they're asking teachers and schools across the country, even the world to do is to have their students cake white or light green paper, put their handprint on that paper, write their name on the paper next to their handprint, where they're from, and their school. and then send it to newtown. what the teachers of newtown are planning on doing with this is stringing them all together so that it's a sign for the community that there are warm hands and hearts around the world that are thinking about them at this awful time. >> yeah. one of the things that we kept hearing, nora, over and over again whether we were there is that they are so grateful that so many people care. that the outpouring of support has been so enormously helpful for them. so now you've got the school support fund to raise money to get the kids into school, which
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has also raised -- sandy hook school support has raised over a million dollars, and it just launched on friday night. >> $1 million. >> what will that do? >> what they're going to be doing is looking at the near term and longer term issues. they're putting together a coalition of local clergy teachers, members of the community to think about how they can spend that money in the future because really one of the things about this -- this awful incident is that if you have a hurricane, for example, or a tornado, there's a physical thing that the community says we must rebuild this. in this case there's physical issues, there's mental issues, there's grief. so the community itself as time goes on is going to have to think about how to best spend the money. the red cross is also there. they've deployed over 150 volunteers. they've been serving meals throughout the days and nights since the tragic incident. over 10,000 meals at this point. also people have come together around the country. ryan kraft for example, the former babysitter of adam lanza,
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put together his own drive to help the pta locally there. anybody who hasn't necessarily heard of crowd rise, it's a platform on the web where you can put together your own drive to raise money for a cause. that's exactly what brian kraft has done. >> so if you want to get more information about how you can donate your time or your money, what should we do? >> well, there is an emergency response line for anybody who is locally in newtown who's trying to figure out how to volunteer their time. that's 1-800-203-1234. and of course at cbsthismorning.com we'll be putting off this information. we not the country wants to help, and we want to help do that. >> we'll tweet a link to that as well. rebecca jarvis, thank you. >> thank you. so what was it like in other towns to go back to school? monday was a very nervous day for many students. and lee woodruff will tell us what she heard from teachers and administrators ahead.
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live from the cbs studios in san francisco, i'm brian hackney. here are the headlines at 8:26. >> concord police are looking for a thief who rammed a car into a videogame store and stole thousands of dollars worth of electronics. alarms went off about 4 a.m. employees who found the karsay that some ipods and ipads were missing. >> apparently, recent rains are to blame for a sinkhole in the making. this morning, marsh creek road between deer valley road and pine lane in clayton is closed.
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a pipe under the road has failed. a potential sinkhole is now starting to form. there is no word on when the road will reopen. but we do know the big chill is on the way. so is weather and traffic after a break.
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good morning. well, the morning commute is in full swing. we're still seeing a bit of a backup as you work your way across the eastshore freeway. an earlier accident is cleared but slow at the bay bridge toll plaza. metering lights are often. also delays for bart, downtown sf to east bay 5 to 10 minutes
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due to equipment problems. also an accident southbound 880 at hesperian is blocking lanes at 23 miles an hour at the scene. north 880 slow out of oakland towards the maze. looks like upwards of 30 minutes for that ride. looks like most of the east bay is seeing delays except the altamont pass, elizabeth. >> all right. well, it is looking good outside. but it is definitely feeling very cold. grab a jacket if you are about to head off to work or wherever you're going to this morning. look at these temperatures. santa rosa, napa, coming in a 33 and 34. lower 40s in san jose. 43 in mountain view. by this afternoon, we are going to see more sunshine, so pretty breezy conditions and temperatures in the low to mid- 50s. it is going to be an even cooler day on tap for tomorrow especially in the morning. we have some freeze advisories in effect already for the north bay and then rain returns to the bay area thursday through the weekend.
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welcome back to "cbs this morning." schools opened as usual across the country on monday morning. as you can imagine the newtown shooting was on the minds of many. >> many teachers from westchester county shared the details of getting back to work after a very difficult weekend. >> reporter: when students returned to school on monday educators prepared to take tough questions from children and offer comfort to anxious parents. >> i'm sure that it was very hard for them to walk away or
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drive away with all the wonderings that they had. >> reporter: schools in harrison, new york embraced a quick return to routine. >> kids need to be with other kids in a place that feels familiar and comfortable. i really think the best thing that can happen to susan kidd to get back into the arms of teachers that care deeply about them, that know them. to be w their friendsith their friends that should be childhood. >> i think kids feel great about being in a routine and feeling that school was normal, as it should be, and they were still going to have recess and things were going to be in place. >> reporter: near pittsburgh, a district received a court order over the weekend to arm its school police. a scene played out at schools across the country. >> there were police posted outside the school. was that giving parents a sense of security flaeg?? >> i met with the mayor, i met with the chief of police. we had a very frank discussion about what was enough of a
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presence to make sure that parents felt that we were taking their concerns seriously without frightening, frankly, fourth and fifth graders who saw police standing outside of their building. but my greatest concern is that we are focusing perhaps this debate too much on how to fortify, make foretresses out of schools, which is really, frankly, impossible. >> reporter: what can you do? what can a school? there is only so much you can prepare for the complete unexpected. >> we do lots of simulations throughout the course of the year where both the principal and teachers were unaware of the emergency, the practiced emergency we're going to create. and we try to determine where any flaws in our thinking might lie or our resources. >> reporter: >> we want them to know what to expect when a fire drill comes and whether we have a-- and when we have a shelterring drill. it's a culture in the classroom of we're going to take care of
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each other. we're going to take care of you, and you're going to take care of each other. whatever comes comes, but we're going to be facing it together. >> i want everyone to get away from the hallway door and get down. >> reporter: the texas attorney general sent this training video to the state's 1,025 school districts and requested each of them to review emergency procedures. >> does everyone have their vests? >> reporter: harrison's superintendent says while necessary, such drills represent only a small part of a larger conversation. >> we can do more certainly to protect kids. and gun control would be at the top of the list to help with that debate. but at the end of the day i think we need to focus on how communities work together with schools to identify children that are disaffected. our belief as a school district is that all means all so that we all have a mutual responsibility for everyone's child. i think that's the answer. >> reporter: during dismissal on monday, this group of teachers stood outside their school, an extra step of assurance for parents picking up their
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children on what had to be a very long day for schools everywhere. >> at the end of the day, i got the sense that there was a relief there. when we dismissed the children, we dismissed them to their parents. and so, you know there was a lot of nods, a lot of, you know eye contact. that kind of gave you the message that they were happy that the day went well, and i think they got through the day and we got through the day. >> reporter: it was a big day to get through. >> it was a big day to get through. >> it was a big day to get through. you know, my sister is a first grade teacher in florida. and she was all ready for questions. she didn't get one question from any of the kids. makes me think that parents aren't letting their children that young see the coverage. >> i had the tv off all weekend. >> did you? >> of course except for watching a little cbs sneaking it in. but i think that that was the feeling yesterday when we talked to the teachers was, parents, it hadn't trickled down yet. they're ready next week the week after and in the months to
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come. and they realize that september 11 that was the situation, as well. questions came later. in harrison, they got together teachers, before schooled opened and talked about what they would say, they talked to school psychologist. they will be prepared. >> did they get a lot of questions there? >> the kindergarten teacher said no none. she said this is natural. she expected a few. she knows they will come. >> what about school security because we know in newtown, at sandy hook, they had all the right security measures. the principal had just done drills they were doing all the right things. what did they say about reviewing security procedures? >> mr. wolf said they are reviewing them as many schools r. as you said, you can't stop someone from blasting out the glass windows and getting in. you're never going to stop this. the issue is deeper. we have to look at some of the other issues and how we come together and try to stop problems as a communities. >> and you don't want the school to be a fortress either. thank you. thank you. every mass shooting reminds
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us once again of others like the columbine massacre or the horror in aurora, colorado. this morning, we'll show you how people involved in those tragedies reacted to the news from newtown.
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horrific acts of gun violence leave emotional scars that can last a life time hundreds of people in colorado were directly affected by the movie theater massacre in aurora or the columbine high school shootings. for them as john blackstone reports, each new tragedy brings a painful reminder of the past. >> reporter: 14-year-old kaleylan bailey lives in new hampshire. when she heard of the shootings in connecticut it was almost as if she was there. >> i went into the gym locker, girls locker room, and sat there and cried.
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>> reporter: this past summer kaylan was in the aurora movie theater when a gunman opened fire killing 12 people including kaylan's 6-year-old friend veronica mauser. after the shooting, we met kaylan and her mother heather. >> horrifying picturing in my head what i saw that night. >> reporter: you say not a scratch on her or wound that we can see. >> right. but mentally, she's going to be dealing with this for a really long time. >> reporter: now the massacre at newtown threatens to be a setback. >> kaylan calls crying from school where i thought she was safe. that she didn't have to hear about it. >> it's going to be hard. it's going to be a hard long road. >> reporter: while the whole nation can be shocked with each new mass shooting those who
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have been there before feel it intensely. in 1999, 13 people were shot dead at columbine high in little ton, colorado. daniel mauser, 15 years old, was one of them. his father tom, was in a business bhooeg learned of the newtown murders. >> i just got up and left the meeting in tears. went to my office slammed the door, and broke down. what else can you do -- >> reporter: but you didn't know these people. they're a couple thousand miles away. across the country. >> it doesn't matter where -- you know them in terms of what they're going to be going through. >> reporter: kaylan says she knows exactly what the young survivors in newtown will be feeling in the months to come. >> when you go through something like that when you're a child, you never get over it and it's never forgotten. and it's almost like your innocence is taken away from you. >> that's the one thing that you want your children to hold on to
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for as long as possible. >> reporter: in newtown now, a memorial is growing. an expression of a community's and a nation's pain. the same happened this summer near the aurora colorado movie theater. beside columbine high school a striking permanent memorial was opened in 2007 with names of the dead cut in stone. does this help? >> it does. i think it's a symbol of the healing, and i think of the community coming together. getting behind this. >> reporter: but while the memorial offers healing each new massacre brings new pain. >> i cannot deny that it brings it back, and that i have to deal with it. i do have to deal with it. >> reporter: even after 13 years. >> after 13 years. this will be for the rest of my life. i know that. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," john blackstone
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little ton, colorado. >> you spent ten years researching the massacre for the book "columbine." i'm pleased to have you here. >> thanks, charlie. >> people are rushing in trying to find motive, asking can, howwhy, how can this happen, we often get it wrong. >> we often get it wrong. after columbine three days later, we had it figured out. we, the media, public, everyone understand key things. >> you were there. >> yes, yes, i was there from the first afternoon. and at this point we had it all figured out. we knew that they were outcast, loner goths from the trenchcoat mafia who had been brutaled bullied by jocks and were doing this as a revenge act to get back at the jocks for doing it. everything i said is wrong. not one single element of that is true. definitely wasn't about targeting anyone. there were bombs trying to kill everyone. they were not loners or outcasts. they weren't at the top of the food chain, but they had quite a few friends, they had a very
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active social life. you look at the daytimers, and it's -- they're completely full. all these things were wrong. and that -- >> that narrative lived on, though, dave. it laid the groundwork for years. >> most people still think that's all today. i do a lot of high school and different events and ask people who what are the main things you know about columbine. and they say all those things. the thing is this week whatever we leave the public with is going to be with them forever. we're going to cover this nonstop for a week or two or something. then we go away and something else becomes the story. that closing point whatever it is, whatever ideas we left the public with, it's with us forever. if we've got something wrong, or big myths out there -- >> you're saying that's why it's so important for us not to jump to conclusions in this case? >> yes. >> what are your thoughts about this chemical case in newtown? >> this case, i don't know. what i can tell you though, is if you want to talk about -- there's three different types of killers that we have found in
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the shooters. and we can talk about what the three types are, you know i don't want to talk about what this one might be because we don't know yet. >> what are the three types? >> okay, there's three -- first is the most rare which is the sadistic psychopaths. they know what they're doing, don't care. they're not mentally ill. that's rare luckily. the second more prevalent but still smallish is people who are deeply mentally ill. we're talking about a total break with reality. and in the case that was true in vek and tucson, unfortunately. some of the notorious cases. but not usually. we want to be careful not to station ma ties people -- >> not mentally not a psychopath. >> yes. the sthirdthird is depression. deep, deep extreme depression. people who are suicidally depressed and angry. that's the one that shocks people -- and it doesn't sort of compute that a depressed person does this. but that's the one we're talking about. and it's a little more complicated. it's people who have gotten to such a point of helplessness and
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hopelessness. so they're lashing out in an irrational way. and often they're not sure exactly what they're trying to accomplish. >> in closing, you make the point that often they are berating themselves, and it's they are the people who have a low opinion of themselves. >> that is exactly it. that's it in a nutshell. >> all right. >> the book is "columbine." >> so much to discuss. thank you, dave. the main character in the "sopranos" was a depressed gangster. remember him? now the man behind one of the best tv shows ever has a new feature film. his name is david chase. he joins us next at the table to talk about "not fade away."
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$2,000 a year for --
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>> people with longer hair than me. >> look at the coat. looks like you just got off the boat at ellis island. >> what? >> he kills himself down at that store six days a week plus friday until 9:00 with that psoriasis, and this is what you do? do? >> the movie "not fade away" is about music in the '60s, how it changed lives and defined a generation. it is a first feature film directed by david chase. he plays in a band himself long before he created television shows like "the sopranos." david chase, welcome. >> thank you. >> why did you decide to make this movie about this subject? >> i've always liked -- i've loved that music ever since those days. >> yeah. >> and it actually -- i was retracing my steps this week in the course of all this publicity. >> yeah. >> and i remember that when
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decided to do this was when keith richards fell out of the tree in hawaii and hurt himself. >> yes. >> and i remember -- it was a serious injury. and i remember thinking, it struck me, my god, keith richards is mortal. >> yeah. by the way this is keith richards' birthday. hello, keith. >> wow really? happy birthday. >> happy birthday, keith. >> it struck me that he was mortal and mick jagger was mortal, and they all were. and that -- >> they just don't know it. >> they don't behave like they are. that's what's great about. it they were still working. i thought, you know i wanted to memorialize it. >> you reunite again with james gandolfini. you have history together, you worked well together on the "sopranos." why did you decide how would be best for this emotionally closed father? >> i hadn't thought about him in the beginning. i wrote an entire script and was having trouble with. it i was about to quit. >> really? >> and go do something else. and for some reason i got this - idea to pick -- the scenes were
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written with the father. i got this idea to picture him as the father. once i did that and i read the scenes with him in mind not only did that part click in for me, the whole tone of the movie clicked in for me. i began to see the whole movie, how -- i began to see that it wasn't a silly teen comedy or party movie orring in like that ing inring in -- or party movie. >> it's not a silly movie. it's been described as autobiographical for you. yes and no. what do you mean by that? >> it's auto biographical in terms of my feelings at the time what i felt at that time about music, love, my girlfriend, the war, but death about -- you know. the events don't really parallel my life at all. >> uh-huh. >> but it is about the power of music, right? >> it's about the power of music. you know, the power of music but also the power of art in general i think. >> speaking of power of art, there is conversations taking place at this time about entertainment and violence and the climate that we have in this
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country. as a creator of entertainment, what do you say to those arguments? >> you know, i went to college i have a liberal arts background. all questions could be entertained i guess. that's what you learn. i guess that could be entertained -- i don't know how you answer that. but -- i'm not trying to be glib. people ask, well do these depictions of violence, do these movies and tv shows make the world a worse place somehow? and i -- and the other day i thought to myself, well, does mary poppins make the world a better place? where's the data on that? and if you could show me data on that, we could talk about the other. you expect that most -- the majority of human beings can tell the difference between reality and -- and wherever they are. and i think we have to make things for the majority not --
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not run away from it because of some deranged individuals. >> so you don't think there's a culture at all of exalting violence whether in movies or video games? >> that's what i mean. that question is up for grabs. i mean a lot of people in my position would say i don't want to hear about it. >> no. >> but i do at least think about that. and you wonder, how is it ever going to be answered? >> david, may i say that i have finally forgiven you for the ending of the "sopranos." >> thank you. >> i watched it and -- and stevie van zandt was here one day. and i was saying talking about. he goes "well how did you want it to end?" all i could say was hmm, hmm, hmm. are you satisfied with it because i hear it stuck with you, too. >> do i like the ending, was satisfied -- >> no, i hear it stuck with you, how to end it how to end the show. >> it was a conversation as to what to do. but you follow your instincts. that was the instinct that came to me, and i talked it over with the writers. they all agreed.
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and -- i've made my peace with it. >> you've gone from to have movie. this is your first big movie. >> david, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> glad to have you here. "not fade away" opens in theaters tomorrow. it's does it for us. up next, your local news. see you tomorr
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headlines at 8:56. a bay area teen is und from the cbs studio in san francisco, good tuesday morning, i'm brian hackney with your local headlines. now at 8:56, a bay area teen is under arrest after he posted plans to copy the connecticut massacre. 18-year-old sergio cabada faces a felony for posting threats online. concord plus police are looking for a thief who rammed a car into a video game store and
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stole thousands of dollars worth of electronics. a man convicted of killing two people at the richmond toll plaza is expected to be sentenced today. 49-year-old nathan burres is facing the death penalty. burres shot and killed his ex- girlfriend, a toll plaza worker and her friend back in 2009. it is a crisp clear day across the bay area, looking picture perfect outside. definitely grab a jacket. it is chilly. santa rosa, napa almost at freezing. 33 in santa rosa. 34 in napa. looks like mid-40s in san francisco and oakland, closer toward the bay. going to warm up only toward the mid-50s by the bay this afternoon. still going to see some sunshine. and another cool day on tap for wednesday. then the rain returns, and the clouds return, thursday through
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the weekend. gianna has your traffic coming up next.
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good morning, final look at the roadways. you can see the backup has been through the 880, but not quite to mesa. still dealing with an accident south 880, blocking lanes in both directions as you work
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your way through there. 238 to the maze. looking good marin county. only 14 minutes on 580 to the golden gate plaza. have a great day, everyone.
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